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    Assalam o Alaikum

    heejray yaa khusray aur english mein jisay "Eunuch" kahtey hain..... kal ki baat hai vo girls hostel kay baahir ghoom rahey thay tu hum kuchh girls nay plan banaya kay in kay saath gupshup kartay hain.... hum nay un ko kaha gupshup karnay ko tu vo raazi hogaye aur un logon nay hamain lateefay sunnai, songs sunnai aur dance bhi kar kay dikhai.....

    "Naach meri jaan tujhe paisa milega" iss song per in logon nay dance bhi kia..... zaati tor per me first time in logon se mein mil rahi thi.... aur first time aisey logon kay saath baat cheet ki.... mujhe tu bahut achay, seweet aur lovely lagay.....

    lakin vo her baat karnay se pehlay dono hathon ki taaliyan baja kay phir baat karte thay........


    agar aap ko pata hai kay vo taaliyan kyun baja kay baat kartey thay... yaa iss kay peechhay kia history hai ??? agar pata hai tu me se share karien please.....

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    w.salam

    Maine Geo per documentary dekhi thi safia... usme inka/inki jo head hota/hoti hay.. usko "Guru" ya "rani" kehte hain.. usne bataya ke jab start me aise bohat kam thy to wo chup kar raha karte thy bcoz log unhe ajiib tarha se dekhte aur kai to khuda ka azzaab aur pata nahi kia kia samjhte thy..
    then inko bhi zinda reha tha to rozi roti k liy best profession (after getting refused to work in anywhere specially in sub-continent) they choose begging as their profession..

    itni lambi tehmid isly bandi k tm ab answer samjhogi.. jo ye hay ke koi khas wajah nahi hay... just attention gather karne ke liy start me kuch khuja saraon ne taali bajana start kia aur ab ye inka symbol ban gaya hay.. taali bajana is just to gather attention.. aur han inke codes bhi hote hain ,like ik baar taali bajai to ye, do bar bajao to wo .. etc etc

    other then it..hamari sociaty inhe apne jesa accept nahi karti lekin west boht pehle kar chuka hay.. thts why whan her shoeby me kahin na kahin ye zeror milenge even respectable jobs par bhi.. jab ke yahan ulta case hay. ap shadi mai nachte oe ya bhik mangte hi dekhenge inhe...

    Last edited by Killer; 05-10-2010 at 10:49 AM.

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    hmmm...topic yeh asia hai jis per hamare mashrey ke log baat karna nahi chahtey..haan inka mazak urana bhot achi tarah jantey hain ...zahar lagte hain mjhe wo log jo inka mazak uratey hian...wo insan nahi kiya ? main agar kisi ko paise dene k haq main hon tu inko ..manti hon ke aj kal bhot se admi hijrey bun jatey hian roti rozi k liye ...lekn in main he kuch sahi b hotey hian ...khair...tali bajane ki baat tu mjhe khud nahi pata Killer ne bata de hia... leken aik baat main batao mjhe bachpan se in se bhot darr lagta tha pata nahi ku yeh mere samne aj b atey hain tu dil ki dharkan aik dam tez hojati hai ...leken phir hua yeh ke aj se 13 saal phele cuz ki shadi thi ..us mian HIjrey aye uff main bata nahi saktey itne Khoubsurat jis ki had nahi aik tu aj tak ata hai hamare ghar ... uski ankhain itni haseen thi na main kehti hon agar wo admi hota tu lakhon larkiyan us ki dewani hoti ...un dino bhot fashion tha her shadi main inke ane ka ...hum ne aik function main inko bulayaa phir yeh sare funtions main her shadi main aye or yaqeen mano bags bhar ke le jatey the ... tab se mera darr khatam hua ...or ab mera bahteja b meri he tarah darta hai pata nahi ku ...leken ab main sahi hogaye hon ke yeh b INsan hian ..bus bachpan main insan hojata hia ke kisi chez se darne lage...mjhe sharmindagi hoti hia ab ke main ku aise darti thi...or Killer ne sahi kha hia ke ab yeh her shobey main nazar aye gai maine sachi kahaniyan b parhi hain in k muta.liq jo agar mjhe net per mili tu zaror share karongi ..anyways bhot mukhlis se hote hain yeh kisi ko nuqsan nahi pohnchatey ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    w.salam

    Maine Geo per documentary dekhi thi safia... usme inka/inki jo head hota/hoti hay.. usko "Guru" ya "rani" kehte hain.. usne bataya ke jab start me aise bohat kam thy to wo chup kar raha karte thy bcoz log unhe ajiib tarha se dekhte aur kai to khuda ka azzaab aur pata nahi kia kia samjhte thy..
    then inko bhi zinda reha tha to rozi roti k liy best profession (after getting refused to work in anywhere specially in sub-continent) they choose begging as their profession..

    itni lambi tehmid isly bandi k tm ab answer samjhogi.. jo ye hay ke koi khas wajah nahi hay... just attention gather karne ke liy start me kuch khuja saraon ne taali bajana start kia aur ab ye inka symbol ban gaya hay.. taali bajana is just to gather attention.. aur han inke codes bhi hote hain ,like ik baar taali bajai to ye, do bar bajao to wo .. etc etc

    other then it..hamari sociaty inhe apne jesa accept nahi karti lekin west boht pehle kar chuka hay.. thts why whan her shoeby me kahin na kahin ye zeror milenge even respectable jobs par bhi.. jab ke yahan ulta case hay. ap shadi mai nachte oe ya bhik mangte hi dekhenge inhe...

    first of all i must say that you have described eunuchs with great acumen.... and it is also right most hijras are living at the borders of society with very low status and have very few employement opportunities.... so they get their money performing dances and begging......

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    me ye to ni kehta k ye log bury hoty hen
    bus agar ye nach gaa k ,mazaq kr k kamaty hen to log inhy acha ni manty...
    mje in ki history ya taali bajany ki logic to ni maloom
    but one thing i can say that
    m aginst all of them who make fun of them.......


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    ye be insan hi hain
    in ko bhi eqally treat kerna chaiya
    jo hum nahi kerte..
    in ko bhi tu Allah ne hi banaya hai..
    mein ne kai dekhe hain.
    last year Ramzan mein aye the hamaray ghar paisay mangnay..

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    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post

    hmmm...topic yeh asia hai jis per hamare mashrey ke log baat karna nahi chahtey..haan inka mazak urana bhot achi tarah jantey hain ...zahar lagte hain mjhe wo log jo inka mazak uratey hian...wo insan nahi kiya ? main agar kisi ko paise dene k haq main hon tu inko ..manti hon ke aj kal bhot se admi hijrey bun jatey hian roti rozi k liye ...lekn in main he kuch sahi b hotey hian ...khair...tali bajane ki baat tu mjhe khud nahi pata Killer ne bata de hia... leken aik baat main batao mjhe bachpan se in se bhot darr lagta tha pata nahi ku yeh mere samne aj b atey hain tu dil ki dharkan aik dam tez hojati hai ...leken phir hua yeh ke aj se 13 saal phele cuz ki shadi thi ..us mian HIjrey aye uff main bata nahi saktey itne Khoubsurat jis ki had nahi aik tu aj tak ata hai hamare ghar ... uski ankhain itni haseen thi na main kehti hon agar wo admi hota tu lakhon larkiyan us ki dewani hoti ...un dino bhot fashion tha her shadi main inke ane ka ...hum ne aik function main inko bulayaa phir yeh sare funtions main her shadi main aye or yaqeen mano bags bhar ke le jatey the ... tab se mera darr khatam hua ...or ab mera bahteja b meri he tarah darta hai pata nahi ku ...leken ab main sahi hogaye hon ke yeh b INsan hian ..bus bachpan main insan hojata hia ke kisi chez se darne lage...mjhe sharmindagi hoti hia ab ke main ku aise darti thi...or Killer ne sahi kha hia ke ab yeh her shobey main nazar aye gai maine sachi kahaniyan b parhi hain in k muta.liq jo agar mjhe net per mili tu zaror share karongi ..anyways bhot mukhlis se hote hain yeh kisi ko nuqsan nahi pohnchatey ...
    siso aap nay sahi kaha hai hamain in ka mazaak nahi karna chahiye..... yeh sub Allah tala hee kisi aurat kisi ko marad tu kisi khoja banatey hain aur vohi behtar jantay hain..... lakin humain chahiye kay hum in ko sahi maqaam dain aur respectable way se in ki society ka hissa banain..... me ko darr tu nahi lagta tha lakin in logon kay saath milnay ki khuwahish zaroor thi...... aur me ko in logon se mil kar bahut khushi hoi thi aur maza bhi aaya tha........

    aap nay apna experience share kia acha laga....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain planet View Post
    me ye to ni kehta k ye log bury hoty hen
    bus agar ye nach gaa k ,mazaq kr k kamaty hen to log inhy acha ni manty...
    mje in ki history ya taali bajany ki logic to ni maloom
    but one thing i can say that
    m aginst all of them who make fun of them.......
    jii bilkul hum in logon ko burra nahi samjhtay...... naach ganay issliye galaban kartey hain kay government in ko jobs nahi deti..... aur issliye apnay peit ki bhook mitanay kalyie nachtay hain.......

    jab hum logon nay in ko kaha kay dance dikhain tu vo dance kar rahe thay aur uss dance per gana gaa rahi thein kay "naach meri jaan tujhe paisa milay ga" sach poocho tu uss song per me ko dukh bhi ho raha tha..... kyun kay hamaray liey tu eik tamasha tha aur vo iss liye naach rahi thein kay hum nay un ko paisay denay thay.............. wese bhi yeh paisa bhi aisi cheez hoti hai kay sub ko nachata hai...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadaf View Post
    ye be insan hi hain
    in ko bhi eqally treat kerna chaiya
    jo hum nahi kerte..
    in ko bhi tu Allah ne hi banaya hai..
    mein ne kai dekhe hain.
    last year Ramzan mein aye the hamaray ghar paisay mangnay..
    bilkul sahi kaha hai.....wese in logon nay supreme court mein case bhi kiya hoa tha kay in ko as citizen tasleem kiya jai aur in ki jins ko bhi tasleem karein.... pata nahi baad mein kiya hua tha ..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safia View Post
    first of all i must say that you have described eunuchs with great acumen.... and it is also right most hijras are living at the borders of society with very low status and have very few employement opportunities.... so they get their money performing dances and begging......

    Thank u safia.. i think we should just treat them normaly..jaise kabhi hme koi maazuri ho,aur koi bar bar ehsas dilae k ap thek se nahi chal skte to kitna bura lgta hay.. same case hay.. thers just need of awareness and its true k ham ne kabhi inko sociaety ka hissa mana hi nahi.. kuch unki apni ghaltiyan hain..to kuch ziada hamari..

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